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Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:13 am
by InaCabdulqaadir
On abtiris.com a lot of mistakes have been made and I would like you to Correct them.

http://www.abtirsi.com/view.php?person=234
This persons abtiris to Daarood should be as follows:Umadnebi Talareer Toljecle Maxamad "Walaal-Yabar" Xajiijle Nooleys Nabidoor Aawe Maxamad Harti Koombe Kablalax Abdirahmaan Bin Ismaa'iil Bin Ibraahim Bin Abdirahmaan Bin Muhammed Bin Abdi Samad Bin Hanbal Bin Mahdi Bin Ahmed Bin Abdallah Bin Muhammed Bin Aqil Bin Abu-Talib Bin Abdul-Mutalib Bin Hashim Ibn 'Abd Munaf (called Al-Mugheera) Ibn Qusayy (also called Zayd) Ibn Kilaab Ibn Murrah Ibn Ka'b Ibn Lu'ayy Ibn Ghaalib Ibn Fahr (who was called Quraysh and whose tribe was called after him) Ibn Maalik Ibn An-Nadr (so called Qays) Ibn Kinaanah Ibn Khuzaymah Ibn Mudrikah (who was called 'Amir) Ibn Elias Ibn Mudar Ibn Nizar Ibn Ma'ad Ibn Adnaan.

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:15 am
by InaCabdulqaadir
This persons abtiris* autocorrect added .com

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:12 am
by James Dahl
This has significant differences, Nabidoor instead of Cumar Sorore, Xijiijle and Walaal Yabare are swapped, Talareer and Toljecle are swapped and no Himidoor, are you sure?

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:48 am
by InaCabdulqaadir
Nabidoor and cumar "sorore" are the same, other than that this is how I was taught by My elders.

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:38 pm
by James Dahl
I know Nabidoon is a title, could Nabidoor be a title for Cumar Sorore?

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:39 pm
by InaCabdulqaadir
James Dahl wrote:I know Nabidoon is a title, could Nabidoor be a title for Cumar Sorore?

I think it's another nickname.

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:16 pm
by James Dahl
Hmm this is the account I've seen elsewhere:
https://lafoislamood.wordpress.com/2012 ... or-haruun/

This is very different!

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:25 pm
by InaCabdulqaadir
First of all, Maxamad and "Walaal Yabar" are the same person. Second of all according to the elders 'There is a group among the tumaal who are Cali Xajiijle and we go into Maxamad Xajiijle' My uncle. Also I've never had of Xassan 'Himidoor', maybe I'm missing something.

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:27 pm
by James Dahl
A lot of abtirsi names get skipped, and this can cause controversy. For instance every Majerteen says there is no Amlale or Hantale before Harti, but this is because Majerteen skip these but Warsangeli don't.

Re: Please Correct abtiris from Umadnabi

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:37 pm
by InaCabdulqaadir
Although skips are possible they aren't probable. A lot of people skips the Cabdille in Jabriil Cabdalle Isxaaq Cumar Maxamuud however because of the existence of the jilib reer Axmad Cabdille, that is irrefutable (as irrefutable as it gets when history is passed down orally) proof that he exists. Similarly it is likely that if Hantale Amlale exists either Amlale should have surviving descendants or Hantale should (excluding Hartis). Until then I will stick to Hartis Koombe.