Regarding the time of Abdirahman (Darod) son of Isma'il
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:37 pm
Attention to Mr James Dahl, Concerning the time frame u have mentioned that Abdirahman (Darodd) Al-Arif Billah son of Isma'il lived and died
I totally Disagree that he died on 740, and on 1600 Darod descendents started to claim that they are descendents of Sufi saint Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli. here are some clues which supports my objection about the above statement:
Sufi saint Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli born on 1322 (722 Hijri)
Average of generations of each 100 years is 5 generations, so coming from the birth of Sufi saint Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli which was 1322 (722Hijri) to The time of Ahmed Gurey (Ahmed Gran)his conquest of Ethiopia which was 1543 (949 Hijri)if we put like this 1543-1322 = 221 which is plus and minus about eight generations although it could be less or more shows clearly that Abdirahman (Darod) could not die 740 (122 Hijri).
The reason: Somali clans who played a strong role in Ahmed Gran's conquest of Abyssinia (The book of Futuuhul Habasha), were principally the Habar Magadle Isaaq, the Harti Daarood, and the Mareehaan, these clans went to war not so much as Somalis but as Muslims.
So if you look at it, Harti how many generations it goes from Darod 5 generations so people who are Harti now are Majeerteen , Dhulbahante, warsangeli, Dashiishe and others so if their lineage goes to Harti to another 3 to 5 generations you can not call them on their tribes as they call them today. But they will be called Harti and went to that war as Harti. That exactly shows as they are claiming to be the descendents of Sufi saint Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli Who is buried in Zabid , Yemen. as the time frame of generation's calculations shows, time of death of Darod you have mentioned 740 8th century who would have probably been born on 7th century and died 740 8th century Wouldn't be possible and couldn't be the ancestor of Harti Who were fighting alongside of Ahmed Gurey (Ahmed Gran) on 1543 16th century as it is impossible within the time frame of nearly 800 years to have maximum 8 generations.
His lineeage is:
Abdirahman (Darodd) Al-Arif Billah bin Isma'il bin Da'ud Bin Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il bin Ibrahim bin Abdisamad bin Ahmad bin Abdallah bin Ahmad bin Isma'il bin Ibrahim Ibn Abdallah bin Isma'il Ibn Ali-zeynulAabidiin bin Abdallah bin Hamid bin Abdallah bin Irahim Ali-ZeynulAabideen bin Ahmad bin Abdallah bin Muslim bin Abdallah bin Mohamad bin Aqeel bin Abu-Talib Bin Abdi-Mutalib Bin Hashim.
I totally Disagree that he died on 740, and on 1600 Darod descendents started to claim that they are descendents of Sufi saint Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli. here are some clues which supports my objection about the above statement:
Sufi saint Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli born on 1322 (722 Hijri)
Average of generations of each 100 years is 5 generations, so coming from the birth of Sufi saint Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli which was 1322 (722Hijri) to The time of Ahmed Gurey (Ahmed Gran)his conquest of Ethiopia which was 1543 (949 Hijri)if we put like this 1543-1322 = 221 which is plus and minus about eight generations although it could be less or more shows clearly that Abdirahman (Darod) could not die 740 (122 Hijri).
The reason: Somali clans who played a strong role in Ahmed Gran's conquest of Abyssinia (The book of Futuuhul Habasha), were principally the Habar Magadle Isaaq, the Harti Daarood, and the Mareehaan, these clans went to war not so much as Somalis but as Muslims.
So if you look at it, Harti how many generations it goes from Darod 5 generations so people who are Harti now are Majeerteen , Dhulbahante, warsangeli, Dashiishe and others so if their lineage goes to Harti to another 3 to 5 generations you can not call them on their tribes as they call them today. But they will be called Harti and went to that war as Harti. That exactly shows as they are claiming to be the descendents of Sufi saint Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jabarti al-Aqeeli Who is buried in Zabid , Yemen. as the time frame of generation's calculations shows, time of death of Darod you have mentioned 740 8th century who would have probably been born on 7th century and died 740 8th century Wouldn't be possible and couldn't be the ancestor of Harti Who were fighting alongside of Ahmed Gurey (Ahmed Gran) on 1543 16th century as it is impossible within the time frame of nearly 800 years to have maximum 8 generations.
His lineeage is:
Abdirahman (Darodd) Al-Arif Billah bin Isma'il bin Da'ud Bin Abu-Ma'ruf Jamaludeen Sheikh Isma'il bin Ibrahim bin Abdisamad bin Ahmad bin Abdallah bin Ahmad bin Isma'il bin Ibrahim Ibn Abdallah bin Isma'il Ibn Ali-zeynulAabidiin bin Abdallah bin Hamid bin Abdallah bin Irahim Ali-ZeynulAabideen bin Ahmad bin Abdallah bin Muslim bin Abdallah bin Mohamad bin Aqeel bin Abu-Talib Bin Abdi-Mutalib Bin Hashim.