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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby James Dahl » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:15 am

bayr wrote:befor answering that question don't you know that walashma dynesty ware ogaden?

bayr wrote:or darood ismail


No, this is not general knowledge at all. Western sources on Somali history who have written about Adal and the Futuh al-Habasha have been extremely vague about the origins of the Walashma dynasty, and Cerulli claimed they were related to Isaaqs.

bayr wrote:the answer is why the somali are fighting today and destroying theyer homes and killing each other . i hope you you know that dynesty ware rulling about 450 years .after 1555 the somali situation was not good. i am not polotition but i am interesting if you know any thing that midtime history


I know the basic facts about the 1500s and the wars, but nothing beyond what is written in the Futuh al-Habasha and a few Harari chronicles, none of which mention the clan or ancestry of anybody. My knowledge of Somali history is broad but has numerous holes, but I'm working to fill them where I can.

I know quite a bit for a westerner :)
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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby bayr » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:34 am

well i don't want to tolk about isaq or other somali clan you beter fine the fact the genocide that happen Harar (MATAQAANAA BAAR SACAD) MATAQAANAA CEEL MUUDAAN TAARIIKHDU MA AHA WA LA ISKA SHEEGAN KARO ABTIRKUNA WAA ABKA SOO GAADH
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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby bayr » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:40 am

WAA SAD HISTORY LAAKIIN WAAXAAN DOONAYAA INAN HORAY U SUCONO
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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby bayr » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:49 am

would you like to make history?
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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby James Dahl » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:18 am

bayr wrote:well i don't want to tolk about isaq or other somali clan


Thats fine, I don't mind.

bayr wrote:you beter fine the fact the genocide that happen Harar (MATAQAANAA BAAR SACAD) MATAQAANAA CEEL MUUDAAN TAARIIKHDU MA AHA WA LA ISKA SHEEGAN KARO ABTIRKUNA WAA ABKA SOO GAADH

would you like to make history?


Please tell me more about this.
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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby bayr » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:06 pm

My abtirsi is:
Abdirahman
Cigaal
Bayr
cumar
Fiqqi-abdille
Fiqqi-abdirahman
Fiqqi-abdijibril
sheikh-abdirahman ()gunmaxile
sheikh-ibrahim
abubakar
muhamed
cashar
abubakar
sacad
ahmed
cali
sabir
naxwi
mansur
cumar(adunyo,wilinwilli)
ahmed
muhamed
xamid
yusuf
barkanti
sacad
muddan
muqabul
abdirahman(ogaden)
absame
kuumade
kablalax
darood
ismail
jabarte
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Re: my abtirsi walanwal dynesty will come back soon

Postby James Dahl » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:15 am

Here is the link here:
http://www.abtirsi.com/view.php?person=4454

One difference I have from your abtirsi is that I have Dunya-huz between cumar(adunyo,wilinwilli) and ahmed muhamed, is this incorrect?
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